Sept. 18, 2009
Alan Watt on "The Extreme Society Show" with Jim Block
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Jim: Hi Alan, this is Jim from the Extreme Society Show. We want to thank you again for joining us tonight. For everybody listening, ladies and gentlemen, Alan Watt from CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com. I really enjoy having you back on. Like I said, we had a good time with you in the beginning. It’s always a pleasure to have you on. I want to just give you an idea of who’s with us tonight so that way you know who you’ll be speaking with. You’ve got me, Jim. You’ve got Miss Christina.
Christina: Hi Alan.
Alan: Hello.
Jim: And we’ve got Dr. Jay Jason.
Jay: Good evening.
Alan: Good evening to you.
Jim: We’ve got our PR director, super Jake.
Jake: Hello Alan.
Alan: Hi.
Jim: And we’ve got Sunny.
Sunny: Hi Alan. It is a pleasure talking to you, actually. I’m the one who helped to find you and I think you’re one of the best researchers.
Alan: Thanks very much.
Jim: Let’s go ahead. So I wanted to just get an idea of what’s been going on with you lately. I mean, what have been some of the hot topics with your show and some of the research that you’ve been discovering?
Alan: Well, basically it’s how the big boys now, the oligarchs really, who control the systems worldwide now, are going into their planned world government, of course. They’ve been doing it for years and implementing it incrementally. But now they’re going for the real punch which is trying to convince the public to depopulate, and trying to convince us as to why they must force us to depopulate the planet. Even on tonight’s show I read Sir David Attenborough’s talk in one of the newspapers about the need to depopulate people, not just birth control but actually start depopulating those that are alive. This is how brazen this has all come out today. And you have the Optimum Population Trust that has branches from London across the world who are all, it’s all British Lords and Sirs that belong to it, the very, very wealthy elite, the establishment, who openly said, with Prince Charles backing them up, that they’ve got to start drastically reducing the population of the world. This is the old eugenics plan that they’ve always had, since the days of Thomas Malthus and they drag out fake figures and what they claim are facts and graphs and charts to try and prove their point. But what it really is, is the Darwinian plan, that the survival of the fittest, the fittest must go on. And those who have helped society get to this level but whose purpose now is over, they can’t go any further, they must simply die off. That’s basically the Darwinian religion that’s being forced out today into the open under another guise. So we all have to sort of start sacrificing to save the planet and to save the better ones who will go on into the future. That’s basically what it’s about now.
Jim: Wow. Well, when we discussed in the email, we were bringing up some of the topics about the H1N1 virus and, you know, the epidemic that’s going now with that and just wanted to get, before we go onto some more deeper questions here, just get your thoughts on, what is your opinion on the whole H1N1 scare that’s going on right now.
Alan: Well, you said it. It’s a scare alright and they’re trying to drum a panic level up to the public. We’ve got to go back to about 1995 for the first demonstrations across, say, Canada for instance and other countries, of this rapid response force to crisis and emergencies, natural disasters. And it came out of nowhere. Then we found out in Canada, we had television specials about it. They’d set up this network of systems across the country, including the US, for any kind of threat from outside, or internal threat, natural disasters. And they practiced these things in the streets across Canada with actors, using actors and volunteers to do with places getting blown up, for instance. I remember coming across one in Allison, Ontario, a little potato town, with guys lying there with tomato sauce on them and guys bandaging them up. I asked the cops that were there and the firemen, I says, what is this? He says, well it’s a practice for upcoming riots, etc, that will come down the road. And they had a car parked outside Baxter Laboratories; they have one of the Baxter plants there, they make vaccines. And he says, that’s where they might set off a bomb. I thought, so why would they set off a bomb in front of a vaccine plant? Well, now we’re finding out why. Because the vaccine manufacturers are a big cabal who want to, who are getting their way, along with government legislation, to mandatorily inoculate everybody on the planet. They’re private businesses. I mean, you can imagine having a private business where you get the government to mandate that everyone in the world must buy your spade or your shovel or your bicycle or something. This is literally what’s happening here, the only differences being the government has exempted themselves and these corporations that are going to, by law, vaccinate everyone, from any lawsuits against them because they know themselves this stuff is unsafe. I mean, this is criminal what’s happening. But at the 2006 meeting, and this is where you must go. You must go into the world meetings that they’ve had at the World Health Organization that’s in charge of all of this and look over the last few years. In 2006 they said they would train the public to eventually take mandatory shots, starting perhaps with the flu shot. And then once they’ve done it once... see, this is Pavlovian training we’re getting right now. Once they’ve done it once then they’ll start giving us shots every year, including annual booster shots for all our previous childhood injections, for the rest of their lives. That’s what they said; that’s in their own website at the United Nations. And personally, I object to being treated like an animal, because under this sovietized system, that’s what they believed in the soviet system, and the Darwinian system – it’s all the same thing – that man is basically an animal and you can train him into any reality and train his behavior in any direction you wish. That’s what they’re doing with us today. And to be honest, when the big boys are out there in mainstream media, in big media newspapers, and the BBC, clamoring about bringing down the population, at the same time they want to give us all mandatory shots, I’m very suspicious indeed.
Jim: I’ve got to really get to some questions. Also on the line with us, too, is Matt from Columbus so I’m going to give him the honors. He’s calling us from Columbus, Ohio for the first question.
Matt: Hi Alan. One of the things, when we talk about the grand conspiracy theory, the thing that always come to mind. We talk about how the illuminati and the elites want to depopulate the planet to an optimal population level. But I mean, how would a group of elite conspirators be able to pull off a mass extermination without people realizing it? I mean, it just seems to me that something like that could never actually be successful. What makes you think that something like this could and is happening right now?
Alan: Well if you follow all the information that is available on previous vaccinations – I’ve got some excellent websites on the histories of vaccinations, from the medical authorities themselves – and they’re utter horror shows when you see what they’ve actually got tucked away in the old history charts to do with vaccinations. They can give everyone a shot, for instance, and don’t forget these same pharmacies who make the vaccines are also employed by the Military-Industrial Complex for warfare purposes, for manufacturing killer viruses and bacterium. I’ve read articles about the big boys, from the CDC, explaining that connection. They want to put something in your body, by law, across the planet, to start with. That’s how they could pull it off if they want to. It needn’t kill everybody off at the same rate at the same time, but it certainly could, like the polio vaccines before them, introduce something like the Simian 40 virus, which, Dr Salk himself, the inventor of the polio vaccine said, has only one purpose and that’s to cause cancers. And now we’re plagued with cancers of all strange types – the doctors don’t even bother labeling them anymore – they’re rampant. So they don’t want to kill you off in one massive wave, however, they do want to speed up the dying process. That’s what they’re all on about today. They don’t want us living as long as we are; that’s what they’re complaining about. That’s what Sir Attenborough was talking about too, we don’t want them living so long. That’s what Julian Huxley said, he says, not just birth control and birth prevention, we must start thinking about death control and start killing off the people before they get too old. That was the head of UNESCO who said that.
Matt: But then why is it that at the same time we continue to make great strides in discovery and in life-extending medicines and technologies, that they also want to kill us off surreptitiously?
Alan: Well, what makes you think that they’re going to make all this life extension technology for you? You understand? They see themselves as a different species from you. They are the products of many, many generations of special selective breeding like the Darwins were. The Darwins had five generations where the Darwins only intermarried with the Wedgwood family, for selective purposes, for certain qualities. Many of these families today are all descended from them. Wedgwood-Benn, who was assistant to the Prime Minister in Britain, for years, he’s a descendant from them. Many of them are descendants from the Huxleys as well. They’re all interrelated, and they see themselves as a more advanced species from the rest of humanity. They don’t have junk genes, they claim, and because they have achieved incredible power and wealth and esteem in their nations, and held onto that money and power – they haven’t produced offspring that squander it – then they, by the Darwinian theory – and they explain this in their own books by the way – they have the right to go on into a future where they can give themselves life extension, but not for the masses. The masses to them now are the problem. We are obsolete. It’s time for us to go. That is, literally, Darwinian teaching.
Jake: Alan I have a question for you, because I’m one of the members here that believes in chemtrails. A lot of people don’t believe in chemtrails. I’ve actually made videos on chemtrails being heavily sprayed, feeling sick, nauseous, headache, you know, incoherence, in some parts, when they start spraying this stuff. Can you elaborate some of your knowledge of chemtrails and if you believe that they’re real and they’re really spraying?
Alan: Oh, they’re real alright. I mean, I remember in 1998 I walked out in the summer and it was the first day of what was going to become daily spraying. At that time they were half the height up, spraying, than they are today. They must have had about 50 planes in the sky. It was an incredible sci-fi sight to see. And I got everyone I knew up and said, look at this, what on earth is this? So it started in earnest in 1998 right after the countries of Canada, the US, Britain and a few other countries in Europe signed The Open Skies Treaty. It was immediately after that it happened, so it was obviously arranged. It goes back to the days of Teller. Teller was the inventor of the H-bomb. He also came up with the idea of using the Tesla technology of standing waves which they could literally promote, across a whole continent, as Brzezinski said. Teller said that if we could impregnate the air with metallic particles, like barium and aluminum oxide, and even titanium particles, he said, we can use the air itself, the atmosphere, as a form of conductor that will greatly intensify the effects of the standing wave technology – they now call it the HAARP technology. He says, this way we can put a secondary wave on it. On the one hand we can control the weather with it, to a great degree – they already knew this of course, and they really tested it out well in the 50s; they knew it would work. He said, we can put a secondary wave on it for warfare purposes, if need be, and in times of unrest, even national unrest, he said, we can cover the entire continent with a carrier wave attached to the first wave and with the air particles spread like this, it’ll travel right across the continent, and he says, it can actually be made to pulse at the same pulse rate as the human brain. And they did tests on the people of Maine; they were the first ones to be tested with this technology, the HAARP combination with the spraying, and the details went to the Pentagon. They did admit that all the social services were studying it. The police were told to report abnormalities, medical authorities reported odd effects, and farmers too, veterinarians. So you had domestic animals going crazy. You literally had cows charging people like bulls. You had dogs biting their masters. You had the highest rate of suicide; at one point it went crazy with suicide, very quickly, massive depression. And at a different frequency they could turn it up and you’d become very aggressive, and they had all these domestic disturbances. So they knew they could literally affect the minds of the public. This ties in with Brzezinski’s book, Between Two Ages. Now, Brzezinski was up there with the NSA, so they were involved in all of this kind of stuff, you see. In his book, Between Two Ages, in the chapter, The Technotronic Era, he said, we have the ability now to use technotronic weaponry – this comes under technotronic weaponry – that will influence people’s behavior without them even being aware of it, and it can be used across whole continents. Well, that was back in the 1970s that he wrote that book. So we’re seeing the spraying used, since ’98, on a frequent basis; up here it’s daily, by the way. And they’re using the HAARP technology along with it. Since 2001, if you tune in a short wave radio, across the bands you’ll hear the HAARP pulsing away there; they change it 2 or 3 times during the day to different frequency levels. It’s been on 24 hours per day since 2001 now. So it’s being used, along with the spray.
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Alan: Hello?
Jim: Due to weather here, because it’s not good, we’ve got a lot of wind up here. Alan, you with us?
Alan: Yes.
Jim: I apologize for that. We’ve got some weather conditions here at our locations, and actually we lost power there for a second. So sorry about that. We’ll go ahead and continue where we left off. Jay has a question for you.
Jay: Okay, so these people that are doing these actions, military, Bilderberg, illuminati, whoever they may be, they travel to places where they’re going to get affected by what they’re doing. I mean, I couldn’t see them even taking a chance at getting cross contaminated or whatever else. How would that affect, with what they’re doing, why would they do that just to harm themselves ultimately?
Alan: It won’t because science is so far ahead of whatever the public is ever told; it always has been. All through the Cold War, for instance, there were so many fake releases put out for the public to believe in, that this is as far as we have, this is our stealth bomber, this is the best thing we have, etc, where they were actually miles ahead of it in other ways. It’s the same with even, say, the very wealthy elite, they travel in air-conditioned cars that are utterly filtered. They live in homes that are utterly filtered from everything. The chelation therapies that they get, you can carry the thing in your arm. I saw something recently, someone sent me, it’s basically a filter tube, it’s inserted into a vein in the arm, it’s strapped to the arm, you can wear it under a jacket, and they change this every day, this kind of thing. It literally is as good as the type of filters they use for people with renal diseases, it’s so good. So they can get this stuff out of their systems without any problem. But this won’t be given to the public of course. All sciences have 3 levels. We have the bottom level of professorship down, that includes medicine as well. There’s a level above them and a level above them again. Armies today have the basic fighting equipment that we’re so used to seeing. The CIA showed us equipment they had back in the 60s, and 50s even, that we’d never heard of until Nick Begich came out with them, where they could actually put thoughts into your mind by little machines they could point at you. Nick Begich demonstrated a whole bunch of this stuff, he said they were obsolete, the CIA were using them in the 50s. And it took about 40, 50 years before we even knew that these things existed. So they’re always so far ahead. Then above the CIA there’s another level that the elite are let in on because they would never give all their power to their inferiors, since they want to stay in charge. And medicine is the same way too, from the medical doctors on down, that’s the lowest form of medicine; it’s very primitive, really, what we have. And there’s another level above that, that’s why you’ll see some people living to 100, some of the big players in fact. Look at old Mr Rockefeller going across the planet at 90, or is it 94 he is, still giving talks every other day about depopulating the planet, you know. He’s up on YouTube doing it. He’s down in South America talking about the amalgamation of the Americas, a very busy man. The Queen mother died at 100 years of age, never had an illness in her life, no arthritis, no aging problems as most folk have. They get treatments at that level that we will never even hear of, and neither will your doctor or even your surgeon at the local hospital.
Jay: Wow. Now, Alan, weren’t you, I’ve heard you say that you were invited to join the illuminati, or they wanted to make you one of their members or something.
Alan: No, I’ve been asked to join some of the Round Table societies, for world citizenship by Rockefeller, that belongs to the Council on Foreign Relations and Royal Institute of International Affairs. You might say that’s part of it because anyone who’s in on the real reality is obviously illumined. We are the profane at the bottom. We believe the mainstream media, and that is our reality. But once you’re in the light, into these groups, then technically you’re illumined.
Jake: It’s all, of course, very interesting and I was wondering here now, admittedly I’m very skeptical of a lot of this stuff because, you know, it just seems like it’s such a complex web of things that have to happen in order for all these things to occur as you describe. Now of course, it doesn’t go without saying that there are definitely more than meets the eye in the world, obviously there is, and that we all know that there are secret societies that are out there and there are consortiums of various business leaders and political leaders and finance leaders who influence world events. I guess my question is, all of these different societies, so the bloodlines that are ruling us, you claim that they have been in existence since ancient times. Are these bloodlines that are descended from, you know, ancient Egyptian cults like the Mystery Religions? Where do these bloodlines originate from and how does one join one? [Host laughing] Can you marry into the bloodline?
Alan: Well you’d have to. You’d have to marry one. And you’d have to be awfully exceptional even to get that offer. But you can go back into history and look at the Medici family, for instance; the Borgias is another one. Some of them became Popes and some of the Medici’s became royalty over France and other countries. And these characters’ ancestors were lending to the ancient Roman armies as bankers. Down through time these characters, the same people, these same families, knew how to handle this strange thing we call money and economy and debt and all the rest of it. There’s nothing new in that. If you go into the histories of Sparta and the incredibly long, over 100 year war they had, as the countries that were already taken over, through debt by banking, were trying to get Sparta as well; this is recorded history. Then we find often banker’s daughters, even Aristotle for instance, that taught Alexander the Great to be a God, in the Gnostic religion. Aristotle was given a wife of one of the top bankers of the Middle East in ancient days, a very, very rich person, who financed wars of that period and helped finance Alexander’s war. These are professions. Economists are bankers. They have long-range outlooks on things because they must, especially when they’re looking for payments back in payments over a long period of time with debt and profit and interest and all the rest of it. So there’s nothing new in that. Look at it today, for instance, and we’re given stories about Rothschild, and there’s no doubt whatsoever the Rothschilds have really incredibly influenced society. Even today with this farce of the carbon taxes that are going to come down to personal taxes, guess who brought it forward? It was Lord Rothschild that brought it through in the House of Parliament in Britain. And he wants all these carbon taxes of the world, that’s corporate, national, and individual carbon taxes to go through his family’s personal bank in Switzerland. So they’ll handle all of that. Beautiful system. So these guys have been literally altering society for, definitely, hundreds of years and probably much, much longer.
Jake: But they believe that they’re making it better.
Alan: When you get up there and talk to some of the higher ones there, they’re all of one mind. And I kid you not, they truly believe in Darwin as a religion.
Jake: When you say that, what do you mean by Darwinian Theory as a religion? Because aren’t you, don’t you believe in Darwinism, Matt?
Matt: I believe in the theory of natural selection that Darwin described but it’s not a religion.
Alan: It’s a religion to these people, because I’ll tell you, and you’ve got read the writings of Julian Huxley who goes through the Darwinian process in detail. He explains it. He said, if you take any form of life, he says, a tree just doesn’t land as a seed somewhere and grow. He said, first you must get amoebas going in and then bacterium into the soil, then certain grasses must come into it, that will grow and die and leave certain minerals behind, and then bacterium move in again and aerate the ground, then that seed can come in and the tree grows. What happens then is the tree will use all that nourishment, the bacterium and everything else will die off in the process. He’s trying to tell you that everything has a purpose to push another higher form of life on. That’s the basic theory of Darwin. It goes with humans too. Once the humans, the lesser humans, post-agricultural, post-industrial, have pushed on society to as far as it could go in a certain area, those people then become obsolete. Those who have risen to the top and proven then can hold onto power at the top, and do practice special selection for certain qualities in their offspring, and will inherit an awful lot of money, which is power, the proof that they are successful, they should go on but we must be left behind. You’ll find the same symbolism even in HG Wells’ Shape of Things to Come. He shows you at the end of it, where all the masses down below the big ivory towers are trying to rebel, they’re so sick of these fast changes that are happening all the time, and the elite take off into space to save themselves, so they can go on into the future, survive and leave all the dead kind behind them. That’s what Darwinism is based on. So society, in other words, the ordinary folk, the different level, the junk gene people as they’re calling us now, will be left behind. We’ve fulfilled our job; we are staging rockets to push on the payload. They are the payload. And they believe, with what’s left of the natural resources of the world, they have the right to use them, not us. We are useless eaters according to people like Bertrand Russell.
Jake: Sheeple, in other words, Alan. They call us the sheeple.
Alan: Yes. The useless eaters.
Jake: Now, I want to ask you, because you know on the Extreme Society we all believe in everything, different religions and stuff. What do you believe in? Because I really never heard you talk. Do you believe in nothing? Do you believe in God? Are you a Christian? What are your beliefs?
Alan: I’ve no pigeon hole. I avoid pigeon holes because that’s what people like in life, is to be in a pigeon hole where other people are. I tell people, you can only go by your own life’s experiences. You know, it’s one thing to say, well this guy believed this in the previous generation and we did before him and him and him, so you should believe it too. No. You can only personally, since you are a newborn creation, unique, you must go by your own personal experiences in life. I don’t deny that there’s odd things out there, really odd, I’ve had plenty of experiences myself, but to actually try and classify them under something is a very difficult thing to do. Most folk want to look into something that preexists so they can just put it into a slot and say okay, that’s what it’s all about. But it’s much, much more than that. You must go by your own life’s experiences, I think, and never be pulled into mainstream. Mainstream religion is completely controlled by the boys who rule all the rest of the system and the economy. I mean, Rockefeller started up the World Council of Churches, for instance, in the Americas; now it’s worldwide. They basically set the curriculum for all seminaries for Christians and look at the mess that Christianity’s in today. They’re weak. They’re emasculated. They go along to please now.
Matt: I believe in, you know, a relationship with the Heavenly Father not so much a religion in that sense. You’ve studied the illuminati and these secret societies and the occult, and when you start reading what they worship and what they believe, and yeah a lot of it is Darwinism. It’s evil in some sense. They believe in a Luciferian or a demonic presence.
Jake: Is it Darwinism or is it a perversion of Darwinism? It’s taking Darwinism to an extreme.
Alan: Not really, no. You’ve got to read Charles Darwin. See, Charles Darwin was chosen by the Royal Society which was, and they admit that in their own website, the first Masonically-chartered scientific institution in Britain. You had to be a Freemason to join it. They had an agenda from the very beginning; there’s no doubt about that. In fact, part of the agenda in the beginning to join the Royal Society, like Francis Bacon was asked to, Isaac Newton was there too. If you were married you had to leave your wife, you couldn’t be married. So you’d become like a priest, utterly devoted to it. Bacon was married so he had to put his wife away and provide for her but have nothing more to do with them, and his children. So they were very, very strict and priest-like in the beginning. Darwin’s father and grandfather both wrote books, identical to what Charles eventually put out, pretty well. What they were really putting out was what they already believed, as a religion, and they put it out under the guise of science. They already believed in a noble gene you might call it, a nobility gene. You’ve heard of them saying that they’d passed on noble qualities to their children. Ordinary people who were not noble couldn’t pass on these noble qualities; it was in the blood, as they said. So they already believed that and that’s why they could say, that’s why all those peasants work the fields and that’s why we sit in the big house here; it’s because we are the nobility; we have virtue and abilities which the peasants, the villeins as they called them, didn’t have. Well, they basically used what they already believed in and brought it into this pseudo-science. Part of it too, by the way, was to destroy religion. That was admitted at the time. They could not rise to the top as the leaders of the world and bring science to the top as the new priesthood unless they got rid of the old priesthoods. They tried to do it through science. They’ve been very successful by the way. Very successful. Even Aldous Huxley in his talk with Mike Wallace, up on YouTube there if you look into there, he talks about that in the 50s I think it was. He says, the last great bastion that’s stopping this new world order and the scientific elite who will run it on behalf of the masters, the dominant minority, he said, is the Catholic Church. He says, once that’s gone, he says, there’s nothing to stop it.
Jim: Well before we go into our next question here I just wanted to remind our listeners you are listening to Alan Watt from cuttingthroughthematrix.com. If you’re rejoining us, we had a little bit of a technical glitch due to weather conditions so if you refresh your Extreme Society Show player you’ll be able to pick us back up. We’re back on live now and listeners are piling in as we speak.
Matt: Alright Alan, again, you’re right. One of the things that, again, just bugs me, is that a lot of these elitists, they do witchcraft, they do black magic, they talk to demons, they try to invoke a dark energy. Can you elaborate on your thoughts on that?
Alan: There’s no doubt that basic paganism is ancient and that’s exactly what happens. They call down entities; that’s what they did in the Bacchus Rites and so on. They would call down particular entities and invoke them. You find a lot of this kind of stuff in the Cabala for instance. There’s some of it in the Talmud even. You find that people, the Christians who adopted the Cabala in the days of John Dee, for instance, really went to town with it and John Dee did bring out a whole method of calling down these entities in his book that he wrote On The Calling Down of Spirits, he called it. You can still get a hold of copies today. You have to know the old Hebrew names because each entity has a particular purpose, so if you want to acquire money you would call down a certain type of demon, if you wanted revenge on someone you’d call down another kind of demon. It’s a very, very ancient type of religion; there’s no doubt about it. Even Albert Pike was into it.
Matt: Are you talking about the Enochian Keys of John Dee, that you’re referring to, calling down spiritual powers to seek out riches and treasures and stuff like that?
Alan: Yes, but he goes even more closely into it in his book, it was called, I think it was, On The Calling Down of Spirits, was the title of the book. It’s just one of the old Hebrew demons after another, or fallen angels if you like. And you must know the keys to each one. It’s the old idea of the genie in the bottle, really; if you know the genie’s name, and you know the names of controlling the genie, then you’re safe. That’s what they believe. And paganism really, the idea is for the initiate to go through stages of degrees and eventually you become a God. That’s the whole idea of paganism ultimately. And that’s the same idea that goes through Freemasonry to an extent as well, and into what we call the New Age religions that are all put out by the same people. You become ultimately a God. That’s the whole intention of it. Once you get in touch with your spirit guide, your power animal, whatever they want to call it, you open yourself up as a channel and these entities then can come in to you and you become a God.
Matt: You know, you were in the music industry and stuff like that and you can see all the symbology in all the music and all the, you know, you mentioned Cabala and you have Madonna, Britney Spears, and everything. It runs rampant through that industry doesn’t it? The culture industry?
Alan: Oh, it’s absolutely rampant, more than you even understand consciously; your subconscious picks up a lot more, especially with the heavy sexual impetus on everything. Because it was decided long ago that they had to destroy, and I mean totally destroy society in order to dominate society. Their main enemies to take over the world were first of all tribes, then the culture of the tribe, or the nation, the morality that kept it all together, the glue that kept it together that bound them together, they’d stand up for themselves, help each other. Government had to destroy all of that using the culture creation industry to bring down a state of absolute baseness and once that had happened and morality was out the window and no one would stand up to help anyone else, then government truly is in charge of everyone as an individual.
Matt: Chaos out of Ordos, right?
Alan: Yeah. Ordo ab Chao. And also government stepped in too, to supplant all the things that communities and families did for themselves. They looked after their own elderly, for instance. They’d have friends around, neighbors that would do child care, for free as a friend. Now it’s all government agencies. And if you go into the writings of Lenin he said that in the West, he said, there’s so many agencies that will come out, run by government, as services, which will eventually become authorities. Well, your police were actually services, you know, that are now calling themselves forces. The children’s aids are now authorities, children’s aid authority. Your health service is about to become the health authority. So this is an old, old plan, and it’s incremental because we as human beings won’t accept, say, 10, 15 changes in a week. We won’t accept it. But if you give us a major change every year or two we adapt to it very easily without thinking. Look at what we adapted to since 2001, with searches and ID cards and so on, and ya-da, ya-da, ya. Then they tell us too, they’re monitoring all our mail, all our communications, and they have dossiers on every single one of us. And we adapt to it and adapt to it and it’s no big deal. We’re the most adaptable species on the planet, according to Skinner. His writings and teachings on behaviorism and how to control the masses and the individuals through behavior modification, incrementally, is being used on us all the time.
Jake: Alan, my question for you was, what are your thoughts on vaccinations with small children?
Alan: Oh, it’s just disgusting. You see, none of this makes any medical sense, this whole swine flu caper. Never in history, never before in history, and even in the medical schools today it’s taught that they cannot predict when there’s going to be an outbreak of anything. They cannot predict it. Any bacterium or virus can mutate in a thousand million directions, and most of them are harmless, and you could never predict when it was going to become a lethal killer. You can’t. It’s impossible. But they’re using this as a pretense to start off annual inoculations, mandatory annual inoculations. That’s why it makes no sense. It’s not meant to make sense. It’s to get an agenda starting, rolling. And I’m sure too, to start culling off the population. However, children, young children at that age, they don’t have an immune response system. The theory is based on inoculation, or vaccination, that you inject something that’s half dead, often it’s still alive by the way, in batches, the virus, so that your body can find antibodies, or make antibodies that will actually kill that particular virus. What good is it to put it into a baby who has no immune system and he can’t put out the white blood cells to kill off that virus? It makes no medical sense at all.
Jake: Yeah. So are you saying that people should not get vaccinated?
Alan: ABSOLUTELY, especially when, as I say, it makes no medical sense. Never in history, and yet as we speak medical students are still being taught the same thing. No one can predict that a virus or a bacterium is going to evolve into a killer. It’s impossible.
Jake: But haven’t vaccinations and the inoculations helped humanity for the past several hundred years since they first began inoculating for smallpox?
Alan: No.
Jake: Generally in the 1800?
Alan: No. I’ve got web sites here from the British medical journals, The Lancet, and all the other data, and the US ones, and you find in the first mass smallpox vaccinations in Britain, everyone who got it died. No one got it, that got smallpox, who did not get inoculated. You wouldn’t believe the stuff that’s out there for the public to see if they want to see it.
Jake: Now, when did that take place?
Alan: In the 1800s.
Jake: Everyone who received the smallpox vaccination died from the vaccination?
Alan: They died from smallpox.
Jake: From the vaccination?
Alan: Yes. No one else got smallpox that did not get vaccinated. And what’s happened is, you see, people were incredibly undernourished then. In World War I the average British young guy who went in at 18 years of age grew up to 5 inches because he was getting meat and good food for the first time in his life; in 3 months he’d grow about 5 inches. People were malnourished. They lived in poverty. It was an industrial working class era. They worked up to 16 hours per day. And the wages were literally starvation wages. So people were undernourished and ordinary things would kill them off, ordinary things which they should have immunity to would kill them off very easily. Improvements in food, an ability to get better food – and that’s what shocked the British troops when they saw the Americans for the first time, how big and healthy and tall and strong these guys looked compared to the British. It was all to do with their better food and so on. So that’s what killed. That’s why all these plagues just died away, and all the childhood diseases as well. The better nourishment you have, to meat, especially meat and so on, and good vegetables, then the more resistance you have to all these different things that used to be very common. Plus we have better hygiene, running water, we have better heat in the winter, or more heat in the winter. All of these things contributed to the decline of all these so-called diseases that supposedly were all so common.
Jake: Now, one of the things that I have a problem with are people’s extensive use of hand sanitizers and, I mean, just the general germophobia that exists, especially in the United States. I mean, it’s almost to the point of craziness. There’s several things, number one, I absolutely detest, like the flu vaccine. I don’t go for it. I get the email, or the company notice saying, you know, flu vaccines are available, you just go here and you get them for free. I don’t get them because guaranteed, I know at least 75% of the people that I know that do get them end up getting the flu regardless.
Alan: That’s right.
Jake: I really don’t care for, you know, cold remedies, flu vaccinations, any of that other stuff. I will tell you that if I do end up getting it I actually get through it pretty quickly. I subject myself to, you know, horrid conditions all the time and I mean, it’s... America kind of counteracts itself, I think, sometimes to our prevention of diseases and stuff like that. As the more that we make our bodies pure of these things, we actually don’t ever build up a natural occurring immunity to these things.
Alan: That’s right.
Jake: I bet, I bet something that I was hoping that you would agree with that it almost seems like, you know, if you really want to tie it into what you’re saying, that the push of hand sanitizers and all these personal medications that you can take, kind of work in conjunction with what they really want. They’re weakening us at the same time.
Jay: Most of America, they say we’re a medicated country now.
Jake: We’re overly medicated. The thing is, that I hate to admit about, you know, this H1N1 virus is that, as soon as somebody gets a hold of, hey there’s something new coming out.... It was the bird flu. It was the swine flu. It was this, it was that. Whatever is new means that pharmaceutical companies... boom, instant lies. The newscast, hey, guess what, we’ve got a new segment that’s going to draw people in because this is the hot or the buzz word. Hand sanitizer companies, and you know, the people that make the toilet seat gaskets and all this other... rubber gloves. I mean, it’s going to go crazy.
Jay: I agree with you. But the other thing is, if it’s the swine flu, why are people still eating pork?
Jake: I don’t know. I watched the news yesterday. I don’t watch the news. I absolutely hate the news because it’s just so you know, selective and filtered. One of the things that I actually saw was that they were recommending that if you take a flight that you bring a bottle of hand sanitizer and that you actually go ahead and be Michael Jackson and wear medical masks. So they’re almost promoting this agenda of, hey you need to protect yourself. But really what you’re doing is you’re creating a barrier in that your body will not get adjusted to these things and you will not be able to build up an immunity.
Alan: Yes, and they’ve had studies to show that people have already had the swine flu, supposedly, without even knowing it, because they had no symptoms at all it was so darn mild. I remember too, they still do this in Britain yet although the authorities are trying to stop them, where people would have measles parties. You’d bring all the children to the measles party, and you’ve got measles and you get over it and you were all fine. Mumps is the same thing. They had all these different kinds of parties, so you built up a natural immunity, a very powerful immunity, with your own body’s response system. You didn’t get things like squalene injected into you, that’s incredible stuff because it’s meant to put your immune system into overdrive, into a war mode. The problem is it doesn’t switch off once it’s killed off its enemy. It goes looking for other enemies around your system and it eventually attacks your joints. That’s why you end up with rheumatoid arthritis. This is well documented from their own records. By the way, this injection they want to give the Americans, squalene isn’t passed by law to be used on Americans; they banned the oil-based adjuvants, as they call them. In this particular flu shot, they’ve snuck it in there and no one’s saying anything. It’s a deadly stuff, this squalene.
Jake: Yes. I was trying to formulate a thought, I just went blank.
Jay: There’s one thing I want to ask you about real quick, Alan, before we talk about some of the other things you’re working on here, one of the main topics going on, I’m sure you’ve read about it and you hear a lot about it here in the United States is the health care plan that our current President Obama is trying to push through. Now, me, personally, I’m against it. I’m against any type of socialized health care plan or public health care plan. I’m against it. But in your opinion, do you think that they’re using the swine flu as a tool to try to help push this plan through?
Alan: They’ll use everything at their command, everything at their command. See, I grew up in a country that had a national health care system. It’s factory medicine. If you see a doctor... you’ll maybe sit all day in a waiting room hoping that you’ll get seen. In Canada you have the same thing here; you can’t get a doctor here. You have to walk into clinics, they have no records on you, they don’t know your past history. You’re given a big 4-inch square number, like a cow; they don’t give you a clip for your ear, though, like the cattle have. You sit with this number and you might be seen that day and if the doctor’s called away to the hospital they’ll say you can all come back again tomorrow and try again. That’s National Health Care system. And it’s under the World Health Organization. You have to understand, under the United Nations treaty the world they’re bringing in is where everyone will get equal access to the most minimal, that’s the term, minimal health care available. And when you marry politics and give government charge of your health... now politics has agendas. They have agendas. You cannot mix that, give them power over health care because when they’re in charge of your body, and that’s what it’s coming down to, and they’re already ramping on about the greening, too many people and so on, how on earth could you hand over to them, you, the right to tamper with your body. I mean, this is ridiculous.
Jay: I agree with that. I mean, right now the government can’t even handle the cash-for-clunkers right now. They’re having a hard time getting that out. Do you think I want a government like that to control my health care? I don’t think so.
Jake: The one thing that I’ve got to add to this is from what I’ve heard originally, even way into the Bush administration, that America was unanimously saying, or close to unanimous in saying that something needs to be done with the health care. So this is a response to it. You guys want some kind of health care plan, let’s build up this health care plan. If it does not work and if America does not agree with it, it will not go forward as our congress and our, you know, three-tiered government is designed to do. That if it does not actually work and if we don’t agree with it, it’s going to go down and it’s going to have to be redone.
Christina: I got an idea. If you want health care why don’t you get a job and you’ll get health care?
Jake: Because the problem is the majority of the United States cannot do that especially with the collapse of the economy. It’s becoming harder.
Sunny: Who set all this stuff up? The high elite, illuminati...
Jake: You can always tie it to that, Sunny. You can always tie it to that. You could either tie it to, you know, the simplistic way that things are going, or you could tie it into...
Sunny: It isn’t simplistic. I mean, our country’s falling down and we’re going to be a part of this whole world system, where they’ve already signed the treaties, the American union and stuff and Alan knows about that.
Christina: What do you think about that Alan?
Alan: That’s true. You see, under the treaties that the US, Canada and all the countries have signed, all health care ultimately is to go through the World Health Organization. That’s what the United Nations was created to be, the global governance of the world. That’s what’s happening. They’re coming up to their true power now. They’re already building up their army, as the true one army of the world, that’s under NATO. And every department there was also to be brought up to its full power, including the International Monetary Fund; that’s why they needed to create this crash, to bring them up to what their mandated position is, as control of all money. But health care definitely, the US signed the same agreement, as I say, at the World Health Organization. They will bring in a socialized medical system which will give you, each person, the minimal care possible. That’s in the treaty. Every country signed that. So this is really why it’s going ahead now. It’s time now to bring the United States into the same plan as Canada’s got, and Australia’s got, and Britain’s got, and so on; the factory medicine they call it.
Jake: Alan, I’ve got a question for you. Health care plan in America, they’ve done tests, they’ve ran studies, and they say that socialized medicine, like you have in Canada, it’s cheaper than our system and it has the exact same result.
Alan: Well I’ll tell you, in Canada if I wanted a sex change, I could walk in to a clinic and they’d start the proceedings off that very day. They’d give me 2-3 years of personal psychiatric supervision. They’d give me hormonal treatments every week for free. They’d give me the whole operation in 2 phases. Then they’d give me follow-ups with psychiatrists. The whole thing would cost maybe $10 million. But if I had a cancer starting or something really major, they put you on a waiting list here and you will be dead before they’ll ever get round to seeing you. You cannot mix politics and health together. It’s a political agenda that’s on track here. Political.
Jay: In reverse to this though, in the way that America is and the way that the majority of people in political power follow religious, you know, rites and you know, they express their religious beliefs; that’s why abortion is always such an issue. Sex change would be a massive issue in the United States. Like, as in they would probably go so far as to write it in, and actually they did with abortion, Obama had to stand up and say, okay abortion is not going to be covered, and therefore all the Christians, you know, stood up and cheered. So I mean, that would be something that probably wouldn’t go with this new health care.
Jake: And they also said that illegal aliens will not have health care.
Alan: Remember too, these characters always bring things in incrementally, little bit by little bit by little bit, until we’re there, and no one notices because we actually are there then. We always expect something to be immediate. These guys work in the Fabian system, little by little, little by little, and eventually you’re ready for the next phase. They will bring it in too, at the right time, after they’ve given you a few years of the basic medical care that we have, where you’ll never see the same doctor twice, he will not have any medical records on you, he won’t know you from Adam, and he won’t care either. All you’ll get here, it doesn’t matter what’s wrong with you, you walk out with a bottle of painkillers and that’s it, regardless of what’s wrong with you.
Jake: Even Obama early on was saying that the records had to be handled differently and that we have to streamline that process. I mean, that’s how the whole thing started coming about.
Sunny: And that’s what they want, the electronics medical records.
Jake: Correct. If you’re on vacation somewhere and you get in a car accident or somebody thinks you’re going nuts and your doctor knows that’s just the way you are, Sunny, and you’re in Nevada somewhere, you won’t get locked up. No, what I’m saying is, I mean, we could look at any point of view and make it sinister, make it look evil.
Alan: It’s not to make it look evil. What you have to do is look into the countries that already have it, they’re further ahead along with this United Nations World Health Organization system than you are, and look what’s happened to them. That’s where you will go, because we all must go... they’re standardizing the world. There’ll be no exceptions.
Jay: The success rate of organized health care in other countries is not favorable, in my opinion.
Alan: It’s awful. I mean, Canada here, the people die all the time. They can’t get treatment. As I say, you can’t get the same doctor twice. And you go into these scruffy little waiting rooms that have maybe got 50 people sitting there, like a factory, and you literally sit there with this stupid number there till your name’s called, a receptionist will shout out over the counter, what are you in for? Are you supposed to just explain in front of her, a receptionist, in front of all those people? I’m not kidding you. This is how they treat you.
Jake: At the same time I will say this though. I was an EMT and I’ve been in medical situations and emergency situations a lot. Even right now, though, that system is still in place. I mean, it isn’t any different from what you’re describing because I’ve actually been to emergency rooms where I’ve sat there with an injured friend and we eventually had to get up and leave and go to another hospital because we were just still sitting there, with holding our little number, you know, in the waiting room. I’ve seen lost records a million and one times. And I’ve actually seen this one, I had a friend that fell down some stairs and he broke his hand. I mean, his hand was swelling up and he was in horrible pain. We bring him in and he has to sit in front of somebody and show all this proof of identification and he has to prove the fact that he has insurance at that point in time or else they are not going to see him. So somebody who’s injured...
Christina: They can’t do that.
Jake: Yes, they do it. That’s the thing. They actually do it. They triage in a way and their form of triage is almost, you know...
Christina: My mom’s friend Kelly has no insurance and she’s went to the emergency room many times and they have taken her.
Jake: A lot of times they don’t do that. They are actually scared to do it. Now, we had a car accident, my wife and I had a car accident, a pretty bad one, and they brought her in on the ambulance. They took her but the only reason they took her is because I was there as her spouse to sit there and spout out all of her... and I had to show that card. They’re just like, do you have insurance? That was it. I wasn’t anything else other than, do you have insurance.
Jay: Even if you said you didn’t have insurance, they take you but you have to go through a process.
Jake: Correct.
Jay: Let me ask Alan this. Alan, right now you’re dealing with a situation where you’re in the middle of a country, I should say, that has socialized health care. Am I correct on that?
Alan: Yes. Oh, by the way, it was brought in by Tommy Douglas who’s a politician I think in Manitoba. He was a eugenicist. He was a member of the World Eugenics Society. He stated and I’ve read it on the air from his own writings. He said that socialized medicine eventually will go into family planning and it will take care of populations; I don’t want inferior people, inferior people shouldn’t live. That was the Fabian Socialist motto. And they brought this in here, and I’m not kidding you, when they’re on a roll to do with depopulation and at the same time they want to have charge of your health care, you should have the hair on the back of your head rising. Their goal eventually, through health care and through all the laws that are getting rammed through, all the time, is eventually, and I’ve read the articles from the big boys themselves saying that eventually they will be in charge of who will be permitted to breed and who will not be allowed to breed, and also, they want to bring in, down the road, mandatory sterilization for different people. They can’t do that unless they get socialized health care and government runs it. They can’t do it without it.
Jake: One of the other things, too, I wanted to tell you really quick here too, is that, you know, when me and my family have taken a trip to up north and we’ve noticed that health care clinics are like what we have, like corner stores here in the United States. In the United States you got little corner grocery stores at every corner. That’s how it was with these little health clinics. One person that I talked to that actually used to live up there basically told me, look, people go to the clinics for anything; You stub your toe, they’re there. Every little thing that we here in America, we just sit back and okay, put a Band-Aid on your toe and that’s it. These people, they actually will rush to the clinic and get care for that and that’s what delays everything. Now, based on your experience would you agree with that?
Alan: You’ll find that, there’s no doubt about it. But you also find that you cannot get on a list of a general practitioner. There’s people up where I live, right here, they’ve been here 14 years; that’s how long the waiting list is to get on a general practitioner. So you have no option but to go to these clinics.
Jay: The other side of it, Jim, the think that you were talking about, like those little clinics. They do that here.
Jim: Yeah. They do.
Jay: They do it in the emergency room. When you’re sitting there and you’ve got a broken hand and you’re pumping out blood, that’s why...
Jim: There were nowhere as many out there as there are here. There were way too many out there.
Jay: But the thing is, also right now, if you wanted control, if you wanted the lessers, or you know, the inferior people to not have health care, to not take care of their ailments, technically we’ve already got that in place because if they can’t afford it, obviously they can’t afford it, you know, because they don’t have any money, they don’t have a job, or they have a job that pays them minimum wage and they’d never be able to afford, you know, cancer treatment. Then also, not all their jobs provide adequate health care and insurances, so therefore we’re kind of weeding them out ahead of time too, even with the system that we have in place. So it’s kind of like, are you treating...
Alan: The government has another mandate all together. It’s not just to help the people. It’s so they’ll be in charge of the people AND the health AND—really, I’m not kidding you—reproductive abilities. That’s all part of it under the World Health Organization. They’ve talked about the necessity to very shortly start sterilizing peoples and deciding who should be able to breed and who should not be able to breed.
Sunny: Now Alan, who developed, and I’ve heard you talk about this. Who developed, like, Planned Parenthood and everything?
Alan: Well, Margaret Sanger was a beauty. You know, she called children weeds. She was a great admirer of Hitler and corresponded with him. She loved Stalin too. She was quite open about the whole agenda that they would bring in under the Fabian system of socialism, where only the fittest and those who are qualified to breed would be allowed to breed and the rest would have to die off. Julian Huxley was a good friend of hers too. Again, he was the first CEO of UNESCO for the United Nations and in his own book he said the same thing. He says, it will be hard to convince the people to get sterilized, we’ll have to find ways to do it either through their food, their water, or injections, he says, because they have more education than people of India therefore they’re suspicious, so we’ll have to do it through a more underhanded method basically, a stealthier method. And that’s in his own writings. And he was a big, big member of the World Health Organization. In fact, he got the biggest prize for the Eugenics Society for his various theories on how to run the coming society.
Jim: So if this does not go through, if they are not able to control the way the people are having children, how is it that we as a society in the United States are going to be able to support those who we know have children even though they are beyond their own means? As in, you have a family that is in poverty but they continually reproduce and have multiple children that they cannot afford to take care of, so therefore, where does that burden lie?
Alan: Here’s the key, here’s the key with the United States system, as opposed to everyone else’s system. And I’ve heard arguments before to do with murders and suspicions of murder and so on, where someone said, is it better to let this person go because of this final lack of proof, or allow it to go on the books and charge them and therefore everyone else can be charged along with them that does something even remotely similar. Plus you have the separation of government, which doesn’t exist anymore as far as I can see from here. In other words, you don’t do collective punishment because of a few. If someone goes and shoots someone you don’t disarm the whole country, because someone will shoot at someone else, maybe once a week or something across the country. You cannot...
Jim: But we do have the issue where we do have way too many children. I mean, we have...
Sunny: Are you a part of the illuminati?
Jim: No, I’m not part of the illuminati. And I’m not trying to sound like that.
Jay: No, but you are right. You are right. And this is what it comes down to man, is the fact that we have a population problem in this country. We have people that live in poverty that continue to reproduce irresponsibly.
Jim: Irresponsibly?
Jay: We need to do something. They don’t have health care. They don’t have jobs and often times they don’t have the ability to get jobs. So we’re screwed either way. You’re paying for it either through taxes or you pay for it through the immorality of abortion. The price has to be paid by someone somehow.
Jake: I’ve heard, Jim, I’ve heard you say that and I’ve heard other people like my friend Matt, that aren’t republicans, that completely reject that socialist propaganda because that means that everybody has to take care of everybody else, we’re all one people, and they don’t want to do that. They don’t want to do that. They don’t want to take care of those people that are being irresponsible. It’s a delicate matter, it is. And I do not believe, Alan, and I want to stress this. I do not believe that, you know, crowd control as if we were cattle is the correct answer. But there are things that need to be done and they’ve got to be very delicately done.
Alan: What I was saying was though, is you can’t look at one, say, area of society and use that to mandate laws over everyone else. See, that’s the key to everything. That’s how you lose freedom after freedom after freedom. That’s what they used in the Soviet Union. It was called collective punishment.
Jake: Unfortunately, that is something that the United States has done. One small situation has basically created a whole new set of laws that everybody needs to follow. We’ve done it.
Alan: That’s right. Even with the terrorism bill. I mean, supposedly it was a guy in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan and then the next day they’re checking little old white ladies with no turbans on at the crossings, at the borders here. I mean, it was nothing to do, obviously, with the Middle East. This was a preplanned idea for totalitarian government. And that’s what we’re going into rapidly, totalitarianism. Lenin said this would happen at the beginning of his reign. In fact he said, that eventually, towards the end of the millennium he said too. He said, eventually there’ll be so many agencies in the United States, social agencies that started off as services because you’ll come under the government authority, that there’ll be so many of them they’ll be tripping over each other’s toes and stepping on each other’s territory and fighting amongst themselves over authority over the people. And that’s where we are today.
Jim: Alan, I appreciate all the information you provide. So I mean, that’s definitely some useful information. And I mean, I agree in some sense. I think once you give a little they’re going to just continue to take more and more.
Alan: Yes!
Jim: That’s just how it works.
Jake: So we’re looking at people, we’re talking about people.
Sunny: It doesn’t matter.
Matt: I have no problem helping a fellow brother in need, absolutely, but they also have to be responsible too.
Jake: But then how do you regulate that, Jim? How do you regulate it?
Jim: You’re always going to have bottom feeders in the system, no matter what system you set up.
Matt: Okay, so don’t kill them off, but I mean, things like licensing, I mean, it sounds horrible. I mean, all this stuff really does sound horrible.
Jim: How do you do that?
Matt: But no, you’re right. Listen, listen, listen... the whole idea here is that you have to make some kind of a choice. You have people that are irresponsible in their reproductive values that are continuing to generate children. If you don’t find some way to take care of them... you’re always going to have poverty. You’re always going to have children that are living in squalor and sickness. And yeah, you know, we can all say we know people that probably shouldn’t reproduce. Maybe sterilization really is an answer. You’re not killing people, but sterilizing them. You’re controlling a population that’s continually out of control. Maybe that’s something that you really should consider realistically.
Jim: Matt, in Mexico if a young girl comes in pregnant they’ll give her an abortion. What I’m saying is the doctor will just go ahead and make the decision to fix her, snip her.
Matt: I just think you cannot continue to ignore the problem that continues to grow every year and it’s getting to the point now where obviously it’s become a very divisive controversial subject. But I think we need to address it at some point, because you cannot continue to ignore the elephant in the room.
Jim: Right. Absolutely. And I agree with that. Well, Alan, I want to thank you for taking the time to join us again tonight. It’s always a pleasure having you on and the invitation is always open and we hope to do it again. One thing I wanted to ask you here is, tell us a little about some of the books you’ve got going here.
Alan: I’ve got a series of Cutting Through books where I go into some of the histories of this system, the con game I call it, that’s gone on down through the centuries by a ruling elite who understand human nature, having studied it for thousands of years. Also, in the second one, I’ve got Waiting For the Miracle which goes into the ancient histories too, of the banking system, how they took over countries, and then forced them off to war with other countries, building empires, much like Britain did, and then getting countries into debt and forcing them, again, to go into wars with other countries. Building bigger and bigger empires until they come to the world empire, which they’re at now; this is what it’s all about. It’s a world empire. And just to finish off what you were talking about there, the countries that didn’t have segments of society overbreeding, in the Western countries, they had their floodgates opened up to immigration to make that same problem happen, because they must have the same problems in every country to bring in the world government. And they’re saying, well this is worldwide now. They didn’t have that in Britain. The British people from the ’30s onwards were having no more than 2 children, often only 1, because their government had told them so in 1920. Margaret Thatcher opened the door, mainly from India, and she says, we’re not breeding enough children now to pay off the national debt, we have to bring in masses of immigration. Well in came the immigration, in came a lot of the problems too, and that’s exactly what they wanted. It was the problems they want and then they say, look there’s too many people living in the cities now, there’s too many of you. Meanwhile, they still keep the floodgates open to massive immigration to make sure we all get the message, oh there’s too many of you. Because the agenda is, and this is why you can’t sterilize any segment of the population. Once the government has the right to decide who gets sterilized, what’s next when you get laid off your work?
Jake: Yep. You’re absolutely right Alan.
Jim: Well, ladies and gentleman, we’ve had with us Alan Watt. His web site again is cuttingthroughthematrix.com. As always, we’ll continue to have the link up there so you can join in. Just so you can share with our listeners, when will your next show be?
Alan: I’m on 5 nights a week on RBN at 8pm eastern time.
Jim: We’re really good friends with them too. We’ve had a couple of other shows, John Stadtmiller and so forth from RBN, so great network. I encourage everybody to check out his web site. If anybody’s got any question for Alan or if you can’t find his site for any reason, feel free to email us and we’ll direct you that way too. Well, Alan, like I said, it’s been a pleasure having you on and we hope to do it again, and I wish you all the best, and good luck with the show. Thanks again.
Alan: Thanks for having me on and I’ve had a good time. It’s a good show.
Matt: Alan, I have one more question real quick. What should we do now, now that we know the truth on what these maniacal psychopaths want to do with us? They want to kill us off. What should we do? What do you suggest?
Alan: Well I’ll tell you, this is a delicate subject to say on air so I’ll phrase it in a certain way. The elite have made no bones about what they want to do with the rest of the world. It’s out in the mainstream media, Optimum Population Trust, Prince Charles backing them. They have unelected members on the British government’s parliamentary body advising them on population reduction and so on, and means to do it, etc, etc, etc, the totally planned society, the controlled society. These guys literally mean business. They mean what they say. And I cannot see any negotiating with them at all. This is a new world order. It’s a NEW world order, a new system and it’s post-democratic. That’s what they say at the Club of Rome, one of the big think tanks. Post-democratic, democracy is too cumbersome, for them at the top, to get the agenda through therefore they’ve bypassed it and they’ve gone through democracy and we’re post-democratic. If we don’t do something with these guys soon, believe you me, they will eradicate us. There’s no doubt about it. They’ve given us enough information from the United Nations and from all their big think tanks and their major media publications as to where they’re going to take us as a society, of massive depopulation, forced depopulation, etc. And by the way, I mean, they’re now in charge of all of your food. They have been poisoning you all along with your food, with the inoculations, and stuff in your water. Arthur Koester, another guy who worked at the United Nations wrote a book on it, The Ghost in the Machine. He says, we are finding ways to lobotomize that part of the brain that makes you an individual, once that’s eliminated, eradicated, you’ll be a happy person, content, and he says, you’ll cause the system no trouble. THAT’S the sort of things they’re working on and published by guys who work on these projects. He says, we can put it in the water, through inoculations, or in their food. Well, guess what? They’re doing all of it. These guys mean business. Politics is just a front; that’s all politics is. It’s a complete front, when all the top guys are picked in advance at the Bilderberger meetings; they’re all members of the Council on Foreign Relations regardless of what party they belong to at the top. Professor Carroll Quigley documented that so well in Tragedy and Hope. So we’re not run by any kind of democracy, but we are run by a definite preplanned agenda, a world agenda, and people must go into the United Nations and look at Agenda 21 for the 21st century. They must look into the think tanks put out by the US military and the British military; I have them up on my archives section of my web site. 90-page reports on what they see for the future, massive rioting starting in 2010, food shortages because they have 5 agri-businesses controlling your entire food supply now; they’re going to use food as a weapon. They’re going to have flash mobs. And they even say, that in the Western hemisphere they will be using neutron bombs, literally battlefield neutron bombs, on mass demonstrations in the future. These guys mean business and we better get to work and you better be prepared to deal with business, because, to be honest with you, they’re ruthless at the top. I cannot see any negotiation.
Jim: Well, there you go folks. For more information visit his web site, cuttingthroughthematrix.com. Alan, again, thank you. It’s been our pleasure. We always love having you on. Like I said, we hope to do it again in the future.
Alan: Thanks for having me.
Jim: Alright, thank you. Have a good night.
Alan: Take care.
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"Cutting Through" |
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"Waiting for the Miracle....." |
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Ancient Religions and History MP3 CDs: |
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Blurbs and 'Cutting Through the Matrix' Shows on MP3 CDs (Up to 50 Hours per Disc) |
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"Reality Check Part 1" & "Reality Check Part 2 - Wisdom, Esoterica and ...TIME" |
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