"Cutting Through The Matrix" Live On RBN (# 346)
Poem Copyright Alan Watt June 19, 2009:
World Agenda -- Demonstration of Implementation:
"Some Families Go Far with Perfect Deception,
Guiding Whole Nations by Altering Perception,
Planning the Future for Themselves to Survive,
Eliminating Competition So They Can Thrive,
Public are Used in Each Generation
To Finance and Fight for World Federation,
And When New World Order Comes into View,
We're Told Utopia is for Only the Few,
To the Masses, 'Sorry, You're Just Not Sustainable,
You've Stopped Evolving, Life Not Maintainable,
While We the Elite will Climb onto the Summit,
The Commoners' Sperm Count will Continue to Plummet,
In the Meantime, You Low-Life Persist in Belief
That Your Betters will Save You, Offer Relief
From Your Cancers and Ailments, Infertility,
We're the Masters of Mind, Stealth and Perfidity' "
© Alan Watt June 19, 2009
Friday June 19th 2009
Poem & Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - June 19, 2009 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)
Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through The Matrix on June the 19th 2009.
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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through The Matrix. People often ask me a very simple question that's got a kind of complex answer. They'll ask me who is at the top of the tree in this system; and these questions are asked generally by people who are waking-up or are awake to certain parts of the on-going agenda. And because of the news articles we've all lived through the events since 9/11, 2001, and we've watched the world change; and we've all read the articles in the newspapers about torture being ok and that kind of thing and totalitarianism, under various guises, being put into effect through various laws, that should really get the wind up people but the majority of the public really will remain unaffected to the bitter end.
The naive question, the very naive question: 'Who is at the top of this?' presupposes that somehow there must have been a time in the past when things were very honest and good and kind of like depictions of Anne of Green Gables, that kind of idea, or Little House on the Prairie. Well, you see: it was never good, that's the reality of it; it was never good. We've always lived under systems of totalitarianism to an extent. All you have really are times in history where there was less enforcement or obvious intrusiveness of government into your personal lives; and really, through the latter parts of the 20th Century, when people were playing at various things, promoted by television, the rock industry etc, and when they were just playing, so much was being done to bring in an open totalitarian system that was timed to become open about it, because so much has to be accomplished, according to a very old agenda, in a short space of time. Therefore, the ‘velvet glove came off the iron fist’ basically, that's what they say. Because you cow people, you make them afraid, during times when you want to ram through legislation and have them obey, through fear, basically. All law works on the same premise: first you have intimidation, most people succumb to the intimidation and acquiesce to whatever order is put forth; and for those who don't give in, they use force - but that is what law has always been.
Down through the ages, we've always had the psychopathic types and I've talked about them before. It’s an interesting, very interesting study to do with psychopaths because they're rather unique creatures; they're almost a separate species, psychologically, from everyone else. The psychologist and psychiatrists are baffled by it because it has nothing to do, they say, nothing to do with sort of learned behaviour; they're kind of born that way. However, what is also true is that two psychopaths who have offspring are generally likely to have a similar type of offspring. So, it should be no surprise to anyone that those families of ancient times that became kings and queens, with all their nobles, their relatives around them, slaughtered their way to the top, that's how they gained prominence. They didn't get it by saying 'Please make me king' - they killed everybody that got in their way - they poisoned people, slaughtered people and starved people to death, to get their way. And kings and queens haven't quite died off, yet; why should they?
As Aldous Huxley said, in one of his talks at Berkeley (and it's on my website, in the archive section, you'll find his speech there), he said there's always been a dominant minority and he says I see no reason why there shouldn't always be one. And he's quite correct: when you go into the writings of Machiavelli and others of the Medieval Period, you'll find how much of a grasp they had on history, these advisers to those who ruled. These were specialists in their fields, they had a tremendous grasp on history, on formula, formulas that had worked on the public, in different countries, all down through history, and they knew how to implement the same formulas in the right sequence, to get the same effects again. They always said that that the public are in the dark, you keep the public deliberately in the dark, at all times; because, you see, a superior breed - and that's what royalty, for instance was - a superior breed. That's what the blue bloods were and that's why they had their wives chosen for them, if they were kings; or their husbands if they were queens. It was for their breeding qualities, to get certain traits passed onto the next; that's what they call royal bloodlines.
You also had the same thing taking off from the mercantile class that took over from the feudal system, in Europe. The mercantile class were families who already owned the trading routes across land; they owned the shipping lanes, for trade and commerce and ship by sea; they were also the merchant bankers, that’s where the term merchant bankers comes from. In European countries, you'll still find mainstream banks called merchant banks; they loaned out money for other venturers to go out and do their trading. And they themselves would interbreed: they used royalty as, basically, a model; and they would interbreed themselves, to create a mercantile banker class - that's what the Rothschilds were doing. They weren't the only ones at it at the same time.
There was also a different religion behind all of this. You’ll find traces of the present, the present new age movement, much of it came from Gnosticism; and Gnosticism appeared in the Middle Ages, in Europe. It was supposedly dead for a thousand years and suddenly it was there, it had never really died out; and that's what the Albigensians, the Cathars and the Bogomils were. These are all different names for the areas they lived in, except for the Bogomils that took their name after, supposedly, the founder. These were all Gnostic sects belonging to the one group, or church, you might say; and they were very-very wealthy people, they had their own banking system. They believed in reincarnation, they believed in transmigration of souls and how souls could come back as different animals, it's very much like Hinduism; and that's what often confuses it today. Part of their higher sect also believed that if there was intercourse between two higher, much higher Perfecti they called them, then the offspring was perfect and therefore a god. They also believed that the inferior types of humans could come back as various animals, as I say: so much like Hinduism. However, it was a Hinduism blended with religions of the Middle East; they were also vegetarian, although the lower orders didn't have to follow that particular rule.
These big powerful families moved across Europe, as merchant bankers; and with their incredible wealth, they soon were favourites at royal courts, because they'd lend so much money, they took over the central banking systems (which I personally believe were already prepared for them to take over, otherwise you wouldn't have a central banking system in the first place). As time went on, they always looked to the future; the future was to be theirs.
They had divided the world, under Gnosticism, into a system of evil and good and the world of matter, technically, was evil; but there was a sort of redemption for those who could become perfect. They could escape it; and their children could escape it, they could live in the world but still escape it, to an extent, and go onto greater things. However, they also believed that they could perfect that which was left imperfect, everything in the world. Not everything, it was well understood there were inferior species of humanity, that's what they believed and that the two could never coexist together.
Going back to the Rothschilds - as one example - and, by the way, the Albigensians and the Bogomils and so on, had sects which were Christian on the front; they had sects which were Jewish; they had different sects. You could come into it and join them, because they would accept anybody, just the same as Freemasonry does today. Then, of course, you were gradually brought into the true meanings, if they could trust you and if they thought you were ready, or qualified for it. Not everyone would get into the higher meanings. Very old sects, and, of course, that was their link to the Knights Templars, because many of the Templars settled in that area of France, where the Albigensians were; and they were also, technically, a Gnostic sect, working towards perfection. Now, remember, the Templars themselves were the first real banking institution on the planet, international. They set up a monied system where they could use cheques as payments, while they kept the gold in the vaults. Back with more - after this break.
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I'm Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through The Matrix, just going over a little bit, very briefly, of a history that's not well known amongst people. Everyone knows about the Inquisition, because, basically, those who had fomented it - I don't mean just the Catholic Church - had been so wealthy when they came out of their areas of living that they could re-write eventually most history, or omit as much as they wanted to. And what they also learned to do was to hide behind many fronts, many fronts, that was their weak point before because the names of their groups were known, the few groups were known and they stretched all the way across parts of Germany, France, Italy, Europe, all the way to even the Middle East. They had regular correspondence, they were well-organised, well-funded, very rich; and very large in numbers as well, so large, they intended to take on and take over from the Roman Catholic Church. That's what brought on the Inquisition; it wasn't the occasional old lady mumbling to herself over potions, as they like to paint it today; it was a battle between two super powers of their day.
As I say too, they believed that eventually if they couldn't perfect all that was left imperfect, meaning all mankind itself, they'd have to eradicate those who were inferior, in order that they themselves could inherit the planet and live. They’d many different legends about how it came into being and how the Satan, which were really to them was Jehovah, had created the world but he couldn't create the soul; therefore they had to ask the good God to help and the good God obliged and then he was double-crossed and this is supposedly how wickedness got into the world. Of course, they themselves were not wicked, they were perfected; but under their old religion, they used the Kabbalah, heavily; and they mixed some of the Hinduistic religions with it and that's what gets confusing to most people today when they look at this kind of stuff that seems to be a mixture of different religions and they're quite right but it also contains the doctrine of Gnosticism. That people can be perfected here on Earth, the right people, the right people, I should say, can be perfected here on Earth; and for the rest of them, they couldn't be. And it's coupled, of course, with Platonism and Neo-Platonism, from Alexandria, because that doctrine also believed there were naturally-born aristocratic types, not necessarily born into the families but the intelligentsia. That's what you'll find some of the Founding Fathers were talking about, when they talked about the Natural Aristocracy, they were talking about themselves, the Intelligentsia, the Illumined Ones.
We ourselves, have been living through a time when the end, basically, of an on-going series of revolutions, or coup d'état, that's really what we're living through today; because, since 9/11, the final part of this plan has been promoted and pushed into action and we're now under authoritarian governments, as opposed to what we thought, what we thought were democratic. In reality, these very rich people, and their minions that help them, most of whom are not even in the real know, but these rich people already had owned the Western world, through commerce and they already owned the banking systems of the various countries and they could, therefore, dictate policy to governments. That's exactly what the IMF, for instance, is for: the International Monetary Fund comes in when you're basically bankrupt and it will sit in on every major decision that parliaments or congress takes and tell you what to do, until their loans are being paid off at a satisfactory rate and a rate of interest at that. That's where the term comes from, what's your interest? It's a rate of interest.
How do you perfect that which is left imperfect if you can't do it with everyone? Well, you get rid of the other types because these guys, you see, always look to the future. The Rothschilds, for instance, were one of many of these families, who funded organisations into existence to do with Futurism. In Futurism they bring so-called 'experts' in who sit in think-tanks, where they have brain-storming going on. Brain-storming is where everyone can say anything they want, put forth any idea; and then they'll debate that idea into oblivion almost. Then, they'll take the outcome of that and make it a premise and, eventually, that premise becomes part of their policy. Futurism.
We're always born, as I say, into a generation, each one's born into their own generation, with their on-going problems; you're tied up with the problems around you and your family etc, basic survival; and people don't question much beyond that, they don't question who is pulling the strings, who is planning the future, who is making all of this unfurl along a published path. I'll be back with more, after these messages.
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I am Alan Watt, this is Cutting Through The Matrix, just tying a few loose ends for people, because, really until you really dig into history, you'll be taken off in lots of set-out wild goose chases that'll keep you going in circles for ever; these are intentional. However, the old history books, hopefully are still out there, here and there, although everything's going digital and lots of stuff is disappearing, that's exactly how it's supposed to go.
Getting back to this belief system that's been with us for an awful long time, that's very prevalent today, we see some of the top singers and so on, I see Paul McCartney’s out there for pushing vegetarian day and so on, to save the planet from more global warming and animals are bad and all that kind of stuff. If you go back into, as I say, the origins of this movement; this movement spawned Rosicrucianism, it was behind it, Rosicrucianism was a front for it; and, eventually, Freemasonry became another front for it, many fronts for it. Then, all throughout academia, because the Masons have no problem telling you that their history shows they pushed education. In fact, one of the biggest groups in France were called The Encyclopaedists and they pushed education but a set education, because, after all, education shapes your mind and you can be used to help work through an agenda and you’ll have no real idea of what the agenda is. You'll think you do, but you'll always be wrong. You'll always be wrong, until you understand the religion; you see: back to the big Futurist think-tanks that the big merchant bankers promoted, to ensure their own survival into the future. They had to look at everything that could be a problem to them; everything that could be a barrier to their own survival; and that included all the other types of ordinary humans, you know, the unenlightened ones, the profane - the common types. Therefore, they decided to have war upon them. We think of war as being two armies opposing each other across the battle field; and that's how you're meant to think of it. However, if you go into areas like the CIA, or the Pentagon, or the Home Office of Britain, you’ll find that war takes many-many different directions and they use many different methods; they have short-term and long-term strategies.
If it's always been part of your belief system that a few must go on into a future, they're always talking about creating a 'golden age', a utopia, but remember: they can't fit everyone into the utopia; neither do they want to. They want to bring those who have proven their worthiness, you’ll find that through all their writings, worthiness - they want to bring them through - and by 'worthiness' they mean a person who has served their system / their community, who has prospered in their system, their community, who knows how to keep secrets from outside their community. They're talking about those who have held onto wealth through many generations. They're also talking about those who, in the Darwinistic ideal, have had their partners selected for them, over so many generations, to breed in the better qualities and breed out the bad. It's all about breeding.
How would you fight wars? Well, obviously, if your enemy is there and you want to kill off your enemy and they're walking around in Civvy Street, that's in ordinary countries, you can't tell them that you're killing them. That's number one, they might object; so, everything that's done has to be made official at the top in all security agencies, implemented by stealth and classified for reasons of national security, for 50 years or 100 years, or whatever term they put up on it. However, bringing down the population is an ideal; you see: they realised that they're almost at the stage where we're all in the way now, we’re post-industrial. These boys don't need us to fill their factories anymore, their factories have gone. They don't need us to keep breeding up young men to go off and get killed and fight for them in wars, as they have wars of conquest. They've pretty-well got the whole planet under their wing today. And as I say: these think-tanks are on-going all the time, all the time, massive think-tanks working with people selected from CIA, MI6 and secret services, Mossad etc. They're all one big party at the top; but you can't tell the victims in an unconventional war what you are doing to them but they do realise that as they push the global warming issue and convince the public we've got to change our ways, we've got to reduce our population, what are they really-really doing? What they're really doing is making sure that, when the time comes, and it will come (because they have predicted, themselves, 30 years of on-going riots etc), when the time comes to complete their mission, there'll be fewer of their enemies left to fight them. That's what it is, that's called intelligence, that's what intelligence is: it’s looking to the future and seeing how you can make it your future and how you can get everyone to do your bidding, to make it your future.
They have convinced the victims, they convince the victims through massive long-term propaganda that they are the problem; and, unfortunately, as always probably down through history, most people will go along, to get along and believe what they're told.
I've mentioned before some of the videos I have, of old clips of executions the Nazis did and others, Communists as well, all Socialists, of course; and all funded by the big Western boys. The people who ran into the trenches and then got shot in the back of the head, had already seen bunches of them doing the same thing before and getting shot at the back of the head. I used to wonder 'why would the next bunch run when they're told to run and wait?' It's because the average person will never believe that the unthinkable is going to happen to them, that's why, that's why; and most people, as long as they can play and they have enough money to play and pay their extortion monies to all the different bosses above them, will go along with anything, right to the end. But, as I say, in long-term strategy: you must reduce the population, because the population, eventually, according to the Futurists, are going to turn, when they're being starved, made poor, have no health care etc, they’re going to turn, obviously, on the big boys who do have all of that stuff. That's natural intelligence at work; that's how these intelligence systems operate.
I've mentioned before about how they get the public to, supposedly, fight over issues and get trapped down in emotive topics and you can't go any further with it, you can't show them the real reason that they're caught up in the anger, for or against. You've got to always try and keep calm, don't get involved in the emotional topic, always look to see what other goals will be arrived at and who benefits, from the days of Malthus to today.
This website here, ties in with this; and it's from a religious website, but the facts are facts, it's a report on something that's happened. It's called Lifesitenews.com:
Peruvian Government Shelves Investigation into Massive Forced Sterilizations of Indigenous Women
This isn't the first time this has happened. It's still on-going, by the way, in other parts of Latin America; and this article goes into who is behind it. And I've read the articles before, from Kissinger, when he brought out that Bill and got it put through - that the threat to the state was over population - everything went into effect then. I've gone into the big Foundations, the parallel government, that really is the government, that funds all the NGOs. Well, getting back to his article by Matthew Cullinan Hoffman, Latin America Correspondent:
LIMA, June 19, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Peru's government has decided to end its investigation against former health officials for thousands of forced sterilizations carried out during the late 1990s, under president Alberto Fujimori.
Human rights organizations have thoroughly documented evidence that women were physically coerced, threatened, tricked, and enticed with economic incentives during the implementation of the program, which sterilized a total of approximately 400,000 Peruvian women in just two years, 1997 and 1998, with the help of
Here it is:
the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA).
That's the Bill Gates and the Rockefellers and all these boys, the big philanthropists again, you see. Almost half a million, in that space 1997 - 1998.
The coercive actions of program officials have been tied to pressure from the Peruvian government to meet pre-set sterilization quotas.
"Pre-set sterilisation quotas"
The economic incentives offered to desperately poor women have also been criticized as coercive, and violated existing international standards for such programs. However, the Provincial Prosecutor in charge of human rights cases, Jaime Jose Swartz, reportedly claims that there is insufficient evidence to charge the nation's health ministers and other program personnel for human rights abuses.
The decision to shelve the case has sparked protests from pro-life organizations, as well as human rights and feminist groups.
“I hope our government changes its decision,” said Carlos Polo, head of the Population Research Institute’s Latin America office in Peru, in an interview with LifeSiteNews.
“I have personally spoken with Victoria Vigo, one of the women sterilized who presented her testimony before the US Congress when the Population Research Institute presented the evidence of all of the abuses committed [during the program]," Polo said.
Now, it also has links on here, to other on-going sterilisation programmes, by the United Nations and the United States Aid, USAID, which supports forced sterilisation across the world. And I'll put all these links up on my site, at the end of the show. So, look into www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com and go through these links at the bottom of the page too. Maybe, it'll stir something inside of you; personally, with the general population today, I doubt it - they're far too gone, most people, too jaded. And getting back to what I said earlier: “This can't be happening to me. I'm ok”.
Do you realise that coercive and stealth techniques used here, by the United Nations and the NGO groups, it mentions it too, by the way, NGO groups and lists some of them, on their related sites, such as the USAID supporting forced sterilisation in Peru, look at that one and PERU STERILIZATION CAMPAIGN EXPOSED and Colombian House of Representatives Approves National Sterilization Program. See who is funding it, see where the money is coming from; and the experts to perform all of this forced - forced - quota sterilisation. Then ask yourselves how would they get rid of you? If this is what they're doing in these countries but they can't do that here? Well, how could they do it to you? And go over the shows I've done, look at the sites I've given you to look at, to do with the sterilisation of the Western peoples and how much of a puzzle it is to the guys at the top, who know some of the causes in all your foodstuffs and everything else and they have for 50 years. Darn, they just can't do anything about it, hmm? But then, as I say, who benefits? Down the road those that have already told us, through their think-tanks and you'll find that on my site too, the 90 page report from the Department of Defence think-tank for Britain and NATO and the one for the United States of America. They predict on-going riots up to the year 2050; and then a sharp decline in population that they don't explain. And what they're doing now is making sure there is less of an enemy around, in the future, when it's their time to take over the whole world and make it into their utopia. That's what you do when you work in intelligence networks: you plan the future, you bring down the numbers of your enemies, long before you do the final war, before you start the final war on them. That's what it's all about; that's how they operate.
Now, we'll take some calls: we've got Mark from Holland there; is Mark there?
Mark: Hi Alan.
Mark: How are you doing?
Alan: I'm hanging on here!
Mark: Yeah? It's great to talk to you. Wow! The talk tonight is great, I love when you do the history; because, it's not only fascinating but it sheds so much light on the present, you know, I've really enjoyed it so far. I'm calling you really to ask about - I live in the Hague and I'm from Philadelphia originally, I moved over here in 1996 - and once in while, I've heard you refer to the Hague and you have a funny tone in your voice and I've always wanted to ask you if there's something interesting you can tell me about the Hague?
Alan: Well, the Hague is one of these odd places, in fact the County of Orange is one of these odd places that has a form of, it's like the City of London, it's like the Vatican Rome and you've also got Washington DC, these are all, literally, sovereign powers.
Mark: Oh, so The Hague is like that today as well?
Alan: Yes; and that's why - see, when they brought in - and again it ties in with tonight's show, to an extent, because people always think of Protestantism as coming just from Martin Luther and Martin Luther of course had his symbol, his family symbol, as the rose and cross. Hold on and I'll go into this, after these messages, because it ties in with tonight's show.
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Hi folks, I'm Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through The Matrix, talking to Mark from Holland, about the Hague in Holland; and when you go into the histories of the incredible religious wars there again, you find that it was really William of Orange who was sent over to Britain eventually and turned Britain into a Presbyterian or Protestant nation and enforce it by massive slaughter and that's what was done, so it was a stronghold really for a particular group that lived in that area but had come from elsewhere, over time. And as I say: this stuff goes back into the old Albigensian and Cathars religion, really that's what was behind this. Because they voted a long-long time ago, they swore they would eradicate the Catholic Church and this was an on-going battle with it really, in a sense; and when they moved into Holland, Holland wasn't known for much before they moved in and - suddenly - Holland became the mercantile capital of the world for quite some time, because they brought in the money with them. They brought the money in and the big families who already ran the trading routes etc; and they made it very rich, very-very quickly and Holland itself was the centre for this. And that's why, of course, the UN set off at the Hague, their big building there, that was one of the first ones they established their various constitutions at; and, of course, it's interesting they have that big black widow spider with all the eggs underneath it, in one of their big buildings there, at the United Nations in the Hague, it's highly symbolic; as I say, it's highly occultic.
Mark: There's a lot of stuff like that around here. Actually there's a Lodge around the corner from me that I've lived here in this apartment for six years and I just noticed it a couple of weeks ago by looking at this tiny little sign and it just says "The Lodge Building" but when you look up at the art work and see a compass and all kinds of other stuff; masonic symbols you know.
Alan: Someone sent me some photographs of some of these buildings and they're so blatant with it there, it's rather astonishing.
Mark: They have the parliament here and then they have this really old building in the middle of it which is called the Ridderzaal, which is the Knight’s Hall, and they give tours through there; but, then, at certain times, it's just closed and I haven't been able to figure out what they do in there but the royal family just uses it at certain times of year and then you can't get in there; but normally you can take a daily tour through the parliament and through the Knight’s Hall. I just think it's kind of interesting and nobody knows what goes on in there when they close it off! But, yeah, it's an interesting place, that's for sure. Once you find out about what's behind it and the history of it, I had no idea about it when I came here. I was sort of running away because I was so disillusioned by what was going on in my own country, the States, but I didn't know about the big picture till a few years ago; you know, looking into 9/11, I eventually found your show and I thought 'Wow! Here I am in the middle of all this, where a lot of the real world power really is'. And the people here all just look at the United States, although there are a lot of awake people here; the one thing they don't realise is their own country's role in this situation.
Alan: That's how they do it, they always keep each country in the dark and keep you looking at some other country at the same time.
Mark: They think it's just little Holland, we don't have any influence.
Alan: There are some very rich people in Holland, very old families. But thanks for calling; for Dave from Arizona, Andrea and Yvonne, please call in next week and we're out of time now. So, from Hamish, who is the dog, and myself from Ontario, Canada: it's goodnight and may your God or your gods go with you.
Transcribed by Bill Scott.
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